Smoking & Progesterone

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Published on Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:22 pm
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I did a lot of research about Progesterone at the very beginning of my regimen six months ago and I've been doing even more. A couple of things I learned in today's research are critically important.

1. Smoking shuts down the Progesterone Receptors in the body (and yes I'm a smoker).
2. Low blood sugar shuts down the Progesterone Receptors in the body (and yes I'm sure mine is all over the charts throughout the day - I'm not diabetic, I just have very erratic eating habits.

Ok, now add that to the other stuff for the MTF's among us:

Men have systemic progesterone and progesterone receptors. The receptors are primarily in the endothelial linings of arteries. Progesterone smooths those linings assisting in the prevention of blood clots, strokes and angina. Estrogens make these linings clumpy and bumpy so the Progesterone (not Progestins) is absolutely necessary to help counteract the negative effects of the Estrogens.

But also and just as important, by us reducing our testosterone levels so much we create a very serious risk for our prostate. Men too have estrogen, albeit much less than women. By reducing our testosterone levels so much we are at risk for enlarged prostates and prostate cancer - in a big way, just with respect to our natural low levels of estrogen. That's why most men don't have prostate problems until their mid 40's or later because that's when their testosterone starts to drop considerably. Now add much more Estrogen to that picture for feminization and the chances increase exponentially. Real progesterone can prevent this from happening too.

It is important to recognize that the receptors DO NOT activate with Progestins, only real/natural progesterone.

So what has to be done? Well from what I can tell you need to introduce high dose progesterone into the regimen. It cannot be metabolized in a pill form though. If done transdermally it has to be done a couple times a day because it's half life when introduced to the bloodstream through fat is very short. If done via intra-muscular injections its half life is about 72 hours. This is the method I chose in that you can save a lot of money this way. I'm injecting .25cc of 50mg/ml progesterone every 3 days.

The other considerations are osteoporosis, men get this sooner than women and MTF's even earlier due to the introduction of high dose estrogens. Progesterone helps here too.

Progesterone is also needed to maintain the myelin sheaths in the brain. Women because of the higher progesterone do very well recovering from trauma as compared to men, especially during menstruation.

Progesterone also minimizes water retention in the body.

What else works against us - well Stress and Adrenaline. Adrenaline blocks or neutralizes the Progesterone Receptors too.

So I have found that the keys are:

1. Get a blood sugar monitor and eat properly maintaining even blood sugars, and
2. Reduce Stress however you can - workout, laugh a lot (really works well), whatever, just reduce your stress keeping the adrenaline in check. Type A personalities pay attention here - I'm a Type A and am constantly checking myself, and
3. Get off the Progestins - they don't help and can hurt you, and
4. Take Coenzyme Q-10 for the brain functions, and
5. Don't Smoke, and
6. Keep a low body fat percentage and exercise, even just walking a lot.

This way we can more safely handle the benefits of our regimens.
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Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:22 pm
 
This post seems very familiar - much like the research and post I did last year on various sites - amazing how two people can use exactly the same verbage on exactly the same topic at exactly the same time of year.
Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:42 am
maura
 
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Maura... If you can post a link to the original work, I'd be glad to add it in as a annotated link, or remove the post , which ever you choose...
Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:19 am
Liv
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Ive hear that smoking cigerates while on female hormones is drangous and slows development in male-too-female and other problems,is this ture?
Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:31 pm
tammylynn58
 
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Well that, and it kills you....

Quit smoking now... ( I know that's harder to do then say) ... I did it... you can...

Smoking thickens the blood and hardens the blood passages.... Estrogen does too... Combine the two and it's like pushing refrigerated maple syrup in 200 year old sewer lines....

A) Quit Smoking Now
B) Till then.... take your estrogen with a baby aspirin every dose (it thins the blood)...
C) Understand that if you don't quit, you will likely die because of it an early death.

Yes I'm being serious.

Oh yeah... and it wrinkles your face, increases T levels, and basically makes you look 20 years older then you are.... all good reasons to....

repeat after me....

Quit Smoking!!!
Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:49 pm
Liv
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My partner knew one girl who was refused SRS due to a chest infection she didn't know she had that was caused be smoking. Years on and she still wont stop and keeps being refused. I packed up smoking over 2 years ago due to bad chest problems it caused, i've been on Hormones 4 years and just had SRS a month ago without any problems at all. It is a good idea to stop if you can for health purposes and it does slow down the hormone effect yep.
Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:45 am
Marcia
 
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Yes you can quit smoking. As two above me have, as have I. I did it with sheer will power. I was informed of the risks of HRT and smokeing, and also the reduction of transformation effects, that helped me do it. But just so you know, from time I started cutting down to when I accually quit, is about 9 months.
Also all the money you would have been spending on cigerettes, you can now save for all the expensive procedures we will likely opt for. :naughty:
Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:41 pm
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